Tall-luck

A while ago I wrote a post about nöttallar where I wrote about the species stone pine (Pinus sylvestris) and Koreans pine (Pinus koraiensis) as the most promising for our climate. A challenge that I then wrote about was that these pines like to take 30 years left before they bear fruit for the first time. One tip I got was that the super-hardy dwarf pine (Pinus pumila), which grows wild in Siberia and whose cones are widely used where, could give the fruit a little faster. When I started to look a little more, I found some more exciting frötallar and could of course not keep me from ordering them home. They were right many nurseries that had a fairly wide range and I ordered from Floraparadies i Tyskland (which is now available on my list of interesting nurseries).

Regular korea figures (Pinus koraiensis) taking it easy 30 years left before it gives fruit for the first time.
Regular korea figures (Pinus koraiensis) taking it easy 30 years left before it gives fruit for the first time.

The already mentioned dwarf pine (Pinus pumila) be according to some information to give fruit after 5-10 years. It is really small and gets after 10 years only 80 cm high and one meter wide. It is certainly a good plant for a little exposed, sunny locations that will remain long sunny, it is therefore important to consider how its habitat will be able to look in the future. There are numerous cultivars of dwarf pine which have different growth habit and color of the needles and unfortunately I have not been able to find anyone that was developed early fruiting.

Dwarf Tall (Pinus pumila) is an extremely weak-growing pine which is said to bear fruit after perhaps five years.
Dwarf Tall (Pinus pumila) is an extremely weak-growing pine which is said to bear fruit after perhaps five years.

Then have someone take the trouble to cross the dwarf pine with cembratallen and produced a hybrid named Pinus cembra x pumila. It is as weak-growing dwarf pine, but puts fruit earlier. One of the plants that I received in the mail a month ago had already developed cones.

This hybrid between stone pine and dwarf pine (Pinus cembra x pumila) has already cones at once!
This hybrid between stone pine and dwarf pine (Pinus cembra x pumila) has already cones at once!

When I did my research, I discovered that there are also cultivars of Korea pine (Pinus koraiensis). Luck 'Glauca’ which has blue needles stated set fruit earlier than the original species, but unfortunately I could not find any information on how much earlier. Korean pine also grows very slowly, by 10 years will not be higher than 2-3 meters and only one meter wide. Fullväxt becomes 25-30 meters high and gets a crown diameter 4-6 meter. Korea Tallen can be 600 years old. In the woodland garden context belongs to the thus the more challenging plants in terms of placement, as it takes no place for many years, but very much room for a few generations. Maybe it's a challenge that my grandchildren's grandchildren will contend with…

Denna korratall med blå barr (Pinus koraiensis 'Glauca') will give the fruit a little earlier than normal Koreans pine.
The Koreans tall with blue needles (Pinus koraiensis 'Glauca') will give the fruit a little earlier than normal Koreans pine.

Thanks to all who came with advice and comments on nöttallarna!

9 thoughts on “Tall-luck”

  • Vad kul att du testar pumila, är själv sugen på att skaffa den. Vore kul att höra framöver hur kottarna blir!
    Läste på någon amerikansk hemsida att om man inokulerar tallplantorna med något mycelium skall dom ge kottar mycket tidigare, by 5-10 years. Har du hört något liknande?
    Det finns för övrigt en pinus peuce, makedonisk tall, som lär vara mer sjukdomresistent än sibirisk och koreansk tall, och den ger också ätliga frön.

  • Hi
    Jag skulle vilja få tag i sibirisk tall men det verkar vara svårt, jag har tittat på floraparadises men där hittar jag inget. Vet du vart man kan köpa plantor?
    Med vänlig hälsning Olof

    • Hi!
      And, jag undrar detsamma. Flora Paradies has slimmed down its range properly since I bought plants there 2 years ago, unfortunately,. Please let me know if you find a source!
      /Philipp

      • Hej Philipp!
        Jag har riktiga 2 year old Pinus Siberia for sale. 200 SEK each. Can send photos of the plants.
        mvh Lina

    • Hi Olof!
      I have real 2 year old Siberian pines (Pinus sibirica) , Award 200 SEK each. If you are still interested.
      mvh Lina

      • Hi Lina. Excuse me for not answering until now. I take a lot of time like a cembra number:)
        Yes, if you have them left, I'm interested. Where in the country do you have them isf? Regards Olof

  • Hej Philipp! I wonder where you ordered the Pinus cembra x pumila? Do you sell it in Stjärnsund? Mvh sophia

    • Hi! The company we bought it from no longer exists and I haven't seen the hybrid in the trade since. Then I also learned that the hybrids have in and of themselves earlier, but also poorer fruiting, with many empty nuts. So it seems to be better to bet on the pure species. /Philipp

  • Have read that you can graft Korean pine on some pines and get an earlier harvest. Has anyone tried this on our regular pine?

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